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Workplace issues take center stage for
Thierry Guedj, Ph.D.

(June 2007 Issue)

Workplace issues can be the cause of more stress than nearly anything with which we deal. From demotions to layoffs to being passed over for a promotion to backstabbing colleagues or just plain boredom, navigating the daily 9-to-5 can take real survival skills.

We spend far more time at work than with family or friends, or even sleeping, says Theirry Guedj, Ph.D., a senior consulting psychologist and faculty head at Boston University and a counselor for the Office of Faculty and Staff Assistance at the BU Medical Campus. But, while there are scores of relationship, marriage and family therapists, there are very few psychologists who help clients with their business relationships.

Realizing both the need and the career potential in working with workplace issues, Guedj opened OnTarget Professional Advising, a professional training and consulting practice, in February. He spoke with New England Psychologist's Catherine Robertson Souter about what he offers and the wide-open field of psychology of work.

Q: What exactly is "psychology of work?"
A: It is the interface between the world of work and the individual. That would be a basic definition - however you would probably get as many definitions as you ask people who are involved in psychology of work. There is really not a single discipline. There is organizational behavior which comes out of business schools and there is organizational and consulting psychology which comes out of psychology, and then you have all the executive coaching type models that come out of the business model.

There are several layers to my work. I run a psychology department at Boston University and I do consulting work there as well, working with the Faculty and Staff Assistance Office, which assists employees who are struggling. Then I have a consulting business that I run out of my home office, OnTarget Professional Advising, where I see people privately and do professional training.

Q: How did you get involved with this kind of work?
A: I started approximately five years ago while working in a behavioral health clinic. I happened to have three or four clients in a row who were victims of very serious harassment. I didn't know how prevalent that was. When I searched the clinical literature about how to help victims of sexual harassment in the workplace I didn't find too much - so I decided I would have to teach it to myself.

I also realized there was a need and that I could do a very good job filling that need and at the same time I could do well professionally. The idea of having my own niche of expertise where I could contribute was appealing to me.

In the beginning, I mostly helped clients around harassment and discrimination issues and the emotional upheaval that inevitably follows. In more recent years, I have broadened my scope of expertise to include advising people on career issues and providing leadership coaching.

Q: What issues do you most often deal with?
A: When I work with executives, it might be: 'My board of directors won't give me the time of day or my CEO bypasses me when making decisions. How do I get his/her attention?' It goes from the person who is basically miserable at work and depressed and anxious to someone who needs to learn how to do office politics better because he is being sidelined in the organization.

It is a matter of balancing the amount of empathic listening with actively guiding people and giving them real skills that help them reach their full potential as professionals and as individuals.

One of the first questions I ask is whether we are going to work together on making the situation better or 'are we going to be working on getting you out of the situation?' For some people it's very clear and it's very straight-forward and they know when they walk in my door what they want. For other people it can be a pretty deep and heart-wrenching grief process to leave a bad situation. I'm working now with an attorney who has been with the same firm for 17 years. From year one he wanted to leave but he stayed and now the idea of leaving and putting his life upside down is very painful.

In a way it is like family therapy - because you have to work systemically. You have to understand how the pieces move with one another in order to bring about change. With psychology of work, you also need to have a good understanding of how organizations work and how decisions get made. Many therapists have never worked within large organizations and don't necessarily understand how the corporate world works and how people build credibility within an organization or get promoted. Most people think, "Well, if I do a good job I am going to get promoted," whereas 90% of promotions come from playing office politics. I do a lot of teaching about how organizations really work.

Q: What kind of training do you offer?
A: Mostly I've been training people in mental health agencies, providing a basic introduction that encourages psychologists and other mental health professionals to take people's concerns about work seriously. Many times clients have come to me and have said either their therapist is not comfortable talking about work issues or they change the subject when they try to talk about it. For example, I had someone who had been written up for a supposedly poor performance on a project. He came to me because he was not happy with the help he was getting from a traditional therapist. The therapist had explored for many sessions what it had meant to the patient to be written up for poor performance whereas my approach would be to see what could be done about the person being written up. And, in this particular case, the allegations made by a supervisor were false. My advice immediately was that he had to set the record straight about the allegations.

Q: It's not always about how you feel about it.
A:Right. He was asking, "What am I going to do about this?" I told the client that the most important thing is to not let the false statement stand with his personnel file especially. So, in essence it is a very different way of working, more practically oriented.

Q: How can someone learn more?
A: There is very little training being offered. We might have spent two hours in eight years talking about work-related issues in my clinical training. The American Psychological Association has created a Business of Practice Network that mostly does research on the kind of workplace systems and structures that are either stress-minimizing or stress-augmenting. They also have a healthy workplace initiative that encourages employers to promote a psychologically healthy work environment. They are working more at the macro level, which is their role and I tend to work at the micro level. The new division will raise awareness but it hasn't yet translated into any form of training at the graduate school level.